You are a prisoner and you are a student," Giovanni Hernandez tells Brut. By Tyler Kendall January 17, 2020 / 2:19 PM / CBS News Dameon Stackhouse was several years into his. The bipartisan restoration of Pell Grant eligibility to incarcerated students is a clear political endorsement of the value of college-in-prison, signaling to New York that it is past time to also restore TAP. Through the lived experiences of the students and their families, this is a groundbreaking story of incarceration, injustice, race in America, and the transformative power of education. On November 24, 1990, James Wiley armed himself with a shotgun and brutally shot down his stepmother and two brothers in their home in Thermopolis, Wyoming. This July we saw a major legislative victory in New York, spearheaded by BPI alumni. And she said, well, welcome to college. When you watch College Behind Bars, which began last night on PBS and concludes tonight, or anyReadMore. And there's - I'll just let the listeners know there's an emotional moment here where you start to speak of your family, and you have to stop and compose yourself. Sebastian Yoon, how long after your graduation did you have to serve before you got - were released? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged. The College: Comprehensive Academic Engagement. It raises questions we urgently need to address: What is prison for? DAVIES: Yeah. Good job. Adjust the colors to reduce glare and give your eyes a break. College Behind Bars is an intimate look at the lives and experiences of a dozen BPI students and their families that confronts . You know, I'm a brother. I just wanted acknowledgement and this feeling of power and security. And what's incredible is that you can also serve as tutors, so you're constantly working with other students who are trying to obtain their associate's degrees or bachelor's. MAX KENNER: Welcome to Bard College. And it helped me understand my place in the world and activated me as a civically minded person. By creating an account, you acknowledge that PBS may share your information with our member stations and our respective service providers, and that you have read and understand the Privacy Policy and Terms of Use. There's a lot of interaction with the students, with the professor and with each other, and a tremendous amount learning also goes on outside the classroom. WASHER WARS After that, I will follow that bike lane back home and do my laundry. Funding provided by Bank of America, Ford Foundation / JustFilms, National Endowment for the Humanities, Meg & Tomas Bergstrand, Regina K. Scully, The Lise Strickler & Mark Gallogly Charitable Fund, a fund at The New York Community Trust, Patty Quillin through the Meadow Fund at Silicon Valley Community Foundation, Barbara & Richard Novick, Chicken & Egg Pictures, The William H. Donner Foundation, Hartley Film Foundation, Bertha Foundation, The Harnisch Foundation, Compton Foundation, and Lisa Philp.And members of The Better Angels Society: John & Catherine Debs, The Cousins Foundation, Inc., Abrams Foundation, Schwartz/Reisman Foundation, Ted Dintersmith & Elizabeth Hazard, McCloskey Family Charitable Trust, and Donna & Dick Strong. Turkish prisons do not have a specific policy regarding children, but in general, they are not allowed in prison. You've just tried to add this show to My List. Sign up for the College Behind Bars newsletter to learn more about the film and events nationwide. SAVOR I usually order a venti Pike, not too strong. Few completed high school; most earned their GED in prison. And school was just really too easy. Mr. Hall is the first formerly incarcerated person to be hired full-time by the Ford. Through the personal stories of the students and their families, the film reveals the transformative power of higher education and puts a human face on Americas criminal justice crisis. For 26 years, BPI joined other advocates in championing the return of Pell eligibility for incarcerated students. You tend to have these open cell blocks, and people are locked in their cells. Adult learners are, you know, much more mature and have life experience. We always have to be mindful of how those people like myself are returning back to their communities and back to their families. She spent four years in prisons taping material for the documentary, which is her solo directorial debut. Accuracy and availability may vary. College Behind Bars, a four-part documentary film series directed by award-winning filmmaker Lynn Novick, produced by Sarah Botstein, and executive produced by Ken Burns, tells the story of a. The doc is also a moving portrait of individuals determined to defy the odds and build a better future for themselves.. This is FRESH AIR. NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by an NPR contractor. We will continue our conversation after this short break. I'm Terry Gross. And then I saw that it worked. "College Behind Bars" follows students in the Bard Prison Initiative, a privately funded college program that began in 2001 in New York state prisons. WebCollege Behind Bars, which airs on PBS Monday and Tuesday night, offers TV audiences a rare window into the U.S. correctional system. PBS is a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization. DAVIES: And your dad went through some really tough times, sent you to Korea when you were little 'cause he was trying to find a way to keep things together. This is the thing we know how to do, and we happen to do it here. DAVIES: Sebastian Yoon, tell us what it was like getting started in these classes. Hes a regular at the local Starbucks, where he takes his coffee with cinnamon, not too much sugar.. We're going to start coursework Monday morning. Copyright 2023 Public Broadcasting Service (PBS), all rights reserved. So there are a lot of things that impede your education in that space. Check out more details below: By Jamil Smith How can we have justice without redemption? And the Bard Prison Initiative, which was - began in 1999. "College Behind Bars" airs tonight and tomorrow night on PBS stations. Kind of how large are the classes? DAVIES: You know, I'd like, Sebastian and Dyjuan, to hear a little bit about how - reconciling with your families. Copyright 2019 NPR. - with, you know, caps and gowns and photos and parents in the audience. That is to say, the college has no interest in the nature of your criminal conviction, the length of your sentence, how much time you have left in prison. So that was, like, really, really kind of humbling to see that type of support from the general population. it is the only time that they can trust they . The vast majority of people in this country that are incarcerated are going to be returning to society. FUEL After Starbucks, Ill go home Im usually hungry by then. While I have little tastes for things, I dont make an elaborate breakfast. Use one of the services below to sign in to PBS: You've just tried to add this video to My List. Just putting together the course was challenging, and working with the students over the course of the eight weeks that we taught was thrilling. DAVIES: Wow. Creating educational opportunities in prison nationwide. Bard Prison Initiative graduate Sebastian Yoon, featured in the new PBS documentary College Behind Bars, shares how BPI changed him and the Eastern Correctional Facility, where he was incarcerated until March. We should not expect that they are only capable of vocational training. And before the 1994 Clinton crime bill, there were college programs in almost every correctional facility in America. Were they all like that, Lynn? college behind bars where are they now. Vocational training is fine, but we should also be having an opportunity for higher education. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. LAVENDER AND TRAP I will either boil water or run a bathtub because on Sundays, I love to take a hot bath, with lavender Epsom salts. They were doing advanced mathematics, math without numbers on the board. I'm an uncle. DAVIES: Dyjuan Tatro, what was your graduation experience like? It gave me the ability to put names to systems and things that had impacted my life. John & Catherine Debs, The Cousins Foundation, Inc., Abrams Foundation, Schwartz/Reisman Foundation, Ted Dintersmith & Elizabeth Hazard, McCloskey Family Charitable Trust, and Donna & Dick Strong. Leath on "Born Behind Bars" Those interviewed in the video say Leath truly cared about the babies and their mothers in the nursery. YOON: Oh. Are children allowed in Turkish prisons? And so yeah, that is a huge impediment to trying to learn. DAVIES: You know, getting a liberal arts education is - it is a lot of work, and it expands one's horizons in a whole lot of ways. And, you know, just being in a classroom setting where I was sitting down with people from different backgrounds, listening to their stories and their ideas and you start to appreciate that despite the differences that we have, there are so much more similarities among us. Add College Behind Bars to your must watch list! DAVIES: And from the graduation ceremony of the Bard Prison Initiative. U.S. Roberta Shorrock directs the show. COLLEGE BEHIND BARS, a four-part documentary film series, tells the story of a small group of incarcerated men and women struggling to earn college degrees and turn their lives around in one of the most rigorous and effective prison education programs in the United States - the Bard Prison Initiative (BPI). 2026. I finished my degree in the spring of 2018. I'm Terry Gross, and this is FRESH AIR. I worked as a cook. You know, I would go in and do all the work in a day or two, and the expectations were really, really low. I mean, both - from the documentary, it seems that both of you had supportive families. I thought it was incredibly well done in all ways. There's an extreme amount of noise in prisons. But while I was receiving that education, as I said, it was liberating. "We all have. I'm a son. Incarcerated men and women in New York State are admitted to the Bard Prison Initiative (BPI), one of the most rigorous college programs in America. Did you feel yourself changing as you moved through these courses? I had to show my passion. And, you know, they're like, strip. Novick is a Peabody Award-winning filmmaker and longtime collaborator of Ken Burns. As a result, the number of college-in-prison programs in New York. That means that 50% to 60% of the 630,000 people who get out of prison every year are back in prison in three years. YOON: Two more years after my bachelor's degree in 2017. Let's listen. All rights reserved. Few people know the joy of a free Sunday like Jule Hall. This is when you, Sebastian Yoon, are speaking at the graduation. TATRO: And, you know, I'll just add that we have been - we have done screenings in prisons from California to Massachusetts. So when we start talking about what is best for people in prisons, Lynn said we should include them in that conversation. College Behind Bars, a four-part documentary film series directed by award-winning filmmaker Lynn Novick, produced by Sarah Botstein, and executive produced by Ken Burns, tells the story of a small group of incarcerated men and women struggling to earn college degrees and turn their lives around in one of the most rigorous and effective prison education programs in the United States the Bard Prison Initiative. TATRO: No. DAVIES: Wow, that's really remarkable. You know, you forgot your book; you can't just go back and get your book. Learn more about this important amendment to the Merit Board rules, and its disproportionate impact on incarcerated women, on our blog. Watch the full film and explore classroom-ready resources and activities. College Behind Bars, a four-part documentary directed by award-winning filmmaker Lynn Novick takes you on an intimate journey of a dozen BPI students who are earning their college degrees while incarcerated. This is not my identity. It took me six years to get from where I was to where Bard was. You can see then Minister. Dyjuan, you want to share something? Following the development of regulations issued by the US Department of Education, incarcerated students who are enrolled in approved programs are expected to be eligible for Pell in the 2023-2024 academic year. Ive got to say, this is the worst part of Sunnyside: its very competitive. Back in 2018, Netflix released its docuseries Girls Incarcerated: Young and Locked Up . When that door closes, you're at Bard College. I mean, I think there are a lot of powerful stories in these documentaries of these students. And, you know, we came to feel that it was important for them to - and they also felt it was important for them to explain themselves, how they see themselves, where they've been, where they are, through the lens of the education that they've been getting and their perspectives that have shifted over time. Rodney has been incarcerated for 17 years and is currently incarcerated at Fishkill. And I went to prison for 12 years at the age of 19, 20 for assault. Since 2001, BPI has created groundbreaking opportunities for college within Americas prison systems. I hope you'll join us. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged. I can give them different types of advice. And because the coffees so bad, we overcompensate with sugar or creamer. And so I was a little bit intimidated by that. So people in the corrections department recognize that as well. The subjects and filmmakers reveal the inspiring story of how the power of education can change lives in College Behind Bars. DAVIES: Lynn Novick, give us the basics of the program. YOON: I would say that all my friends right now are my peers from the BPI program, and our network is really growing. Find standards-aligned teaching resources for The documentary, "College Behind Bars," airs tonight and tomorrow night on PBS stations and will also be available for streaming. When I look at the scenes of the classroom in the documentary - it's a four-part documentary, and there are a lot of scenes - these classes are a lot more orderly and focused than I remember any of my college or high school classes being. Both are featured in the PBS documentary series College Behind Bars. TATRO: And so I got to walk across the stage on Bard's Annandale campus with the other 400 students in my year in 2018. College-in-prison, which had been common in prisons across the country, collapsed. 80% are BIPOC. Shot over four years in maximum and medium security prisons in New York State, the four-hour film takes viewers on a stark and intimate journey into one of the most pressing issues of our time our failure to provide meaningful rehabilitation for the over two million Americans living behind bars. Yoon and Tatro earned college degrees taking rigorous courses taught by Bard College faculty in a maximum-security prison. You can learn the math skills you need pretty quickly if you're motivated. NOVICK: Yeah, pretty much. But I needed that degree in order to get my first interview, and then I went to four more interviews after that where I was able to prove myself through speech. How Jule Hall, Graduate of the Bard Prison Initiative, Spends His Sundays, https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/10/nyregion/jule-hall-college-behind-bars-pbs.html. (SOUNDBITE OF ROBBEN FORD AND BILL EVANS' "PIXIES"). I'm Terry Gross. You know, I am originally from Albany, N.Y. Incarcerated men and women in New York State are admitted to the Bard Prison Initiative (BPI), one of the most rigorous co, Sebastian, Dyjuan and Tamara reflect on the difficult circumstances of their childhood, while the debate team prepares to, The debate union faces their rival across the river, West Point. GROSS: Lynn Novick speaking with Dave Davies. My colleagues are aware of different types of cuisine and restaurants and whenever we travel together for work or have a lunch together, theres this tendency to talk about food and wine. They have the bike path right on the corner that leads all the way to the East River. This is a full-time and long-term and total commitment. I'm just interested in your perspective on this because I'm just - I imagine that, in a maximum security facility, there are a lot of folks who just didn't have kind of the educational kind of foundation to do college work the way you did, or maybe I'm wrong about that. A VIEW FROM THE BRIDGE Once I put something in my stomach, I bike ride. DAVIES: Yeah, this business of counts - I mean, Sebastian Yoon, do you want to explain this? Of course, I recognize where this comes from: I wasnt around children for 22 years. So I walked out of prison on August 10 of 2017, and I was back in college on August 24 finishing my B.A. I'm done. The recent PBS series, College Behind Bars, chronicles Mr. Halls eventual parole and release in 2015. Max Kenner, when he started it, was an undergraduate at Bard and just saw this need and, you know, convinced the college that it would be something that they should try to do. At BPI, we are committed to investing in people, reinventing institutions and making genuine education more accessible. And that's - Pell grants are supposed to be based on economic need. Skiff Mountain Films 2019 | info@skiffmountainfilms.com You know, it's interesting. I mean, anybody who watches this film will think, gosh, I don't know if I could handle this stuff. I just committed a bad act. In early 2020 BPI began working with lawmakers to change Merit Board eligibility rules so that all incarcerated students can be eligible for early release based on earning college credits. I'm going to get emotional. TATRO: Having a liberal arts education has made me a much deeper thinker. Justice in America Episode 29: Schools in Prison Faculty are going to be evaluating what you do as a student, exclusively. YOON: Sometimes, it takes 40 minutes. I was a very precocious child. By signing up for BPI emails, you are agreeing to receive news and updates from BPI. And I will say this - when we started the project, sometimes people would say to us, oh, most people in prison will say that they're innocent and they didn't do the crime that they're there for. TATRO: They are like, congratulations. The recent PBS series, " College Behind Bars ," chronicles Mr. Hall's eventual parole and release in 2015. YOON: And part of that crime bill, Dave, was comprised - allocating $10 billion to build more prisons, and $10 billion at the time was enough to pay for higher education in prisons for more than 200 years. While my clothes are in the washer, because its right across the street from me, Ill run back upstairs and start cleaning my apartment for the week. DAVIES: Yeah. The majority were first arrested as minors. The subjects and filmmakers reveal how the power of education changes lives. Like, that's who I am. Siena Poll Today Showed Huge, Bipartisan Majorities For Programs That Lower Barriers to Incarcerated New Yorkers Re-Entering Society When we come home now, we often help each other get jobs. Do they have a place as opposed to, you know, this really rigorous academic program? Both of you went into prison as teenagers and came out as young men. Tell me how the experience compared with what you expected. James Herriots adventures as a veterinarian in 1930s Yorkshire get a new TV adaptation. You may change your parameters at any time using the link found at the bottom of every email. It was seeing what happens when students are first confronted with material that seems really daunting, and they have to learn to think critically and express ideas that are kind of uncomfortable and that over time you see them - they're - you know, their thinking and expression becomes sharper and more sophisticated. Jule Hall walks through Sunnyside, Queens, his neighborhood. With Botstein onboard as a producer, Novick set out to direct what became the four-part PBS docuseries "College Behind Bars." Executive produced by Burns, the documentary examines mass. What I prize is the education and the knowledge that I received in the process of obtaining that degree. For now, the roughly 300 students taking . College Behind Bars, a four-part documentary film series directed by award-winning filmmaker Lynn Novick, produced by Sarah Botstein, and executive produced by Ken Burns, tells the story of a small group of incarcerated men and women struggling to earn college degrees and turn their lives around in one of the most rigorous and effective prison education programs in the United States the Bard Prison Initiative. How can we have justice without redemption? NOVICK: Yeah. They appear in the PBS documentary "College Behind Bars," directed by Lynn Novick. (SOUNDBITE OF MARCUS ROBERTS' "IT'S MARIA'S DANCE"). Your support helps make this possible. The faculty generally find this experience so energizing because of that exact thing - that they have to sort of - if they're teaching a course on the Bard campus and in BPI, they actually have to make the BPI version a bit harder, get more assignments and, you know, up the reading because the students are just so eager for the material and expect so much. And one of the things that I saw as I watched the four episodes - and this reminded me of - I taught middle school and high school many, many years ago. Theres Filipino food, theres Indian cuisine, theres Turkish cuisine, theres Asian food, theres Greek restaurants, theres a diversity. Who among us is capable of academic excellence? GROSS: Sebastian Yoon and Dyjuan Tatro earned bachelor's degrees from the Bard Prison Initiative. And then you address your father directly. I don't think I heard anybody use that as an excuse for committing crimes, though. The Bard Prison Initiative enrolls over 300 incarcerated students in six New York State prisons. But I had no life experience to bring to that. DAVIES: You know, I want to talk to you, Sebastian Yoon and Dyjuan Tatro, a bit about your lives. Gordon Ramsay, in 2012, featured the enterprise as part of the show Gordon Behind Bars. Funding for College Behind Bars is provided by Bank of America; PBS; Ford Foundation / JustFilms; National Endowment for the Humanities; Meg & Tomas Bergstrand; Regina K. Scully; The Lise More, Funding for College Behind Bars is provided by Bank of America; PBS; Ford Foundation / JustFilms; National Endowment for the Humanities; He started his college education behind bars. DAVIES: Sebastian Yoon, what about connecting with your family? 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