It's easy! On their way out, Pattern and Shallan imitated the Brightlord - Shallan providing the illusion and Pattern providing the voice - to prevent suspicion of their presence in the house. It's easy! Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! Please help The Coppermind by. She'd been so focused on the conversation, she'd just let her hands do the drawing, trusting in her Though Jasnah initially tried to placate Shallan and send her away, the young woman stayed to talk. Theres definitely questions about what blade she used at what time. Many spren aren't that mature and I worry about what other secrets might be given away accidentally by a spren who's too trusting. It's the only thing that makes sense. Huge spoilery theory thread that started in 2020 & has been consolidated & is being actively updated: https://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/95749-theory-taln-wasnt-the-herald-who-broke-it-was-chanarach/, I think the shining soul might have been the shardblade? Shallan saw several Cryptics in Kharbranth, Pattern might have been one of them. I was thinking about this recently. You're carrying around a corpse after all. I know that you have forgotten much of what once was. [13], Further, he tells Shallan that she will eventually betray her oaths, thereby breaking his mind, leaving him dead. Dread overload from all directions, making the entire situation seem helpless. Though Jasnah is a very logical person, and is considered 'heartless', the opposite is actually true. "Why did she try to kill me, Pattern?" Shallan whispered. Theres nothing that says you cant bond a Spren while youve bonded a blade. Again he vanished, seen only for a brief moment. was he truly that loyal to her? Don't have WoK currently, but I remember Cenn commenting of seeing some blue or a spern near Kal during the fight. Shallan explained she had fallen into the trap of seeing Jasnah's research as a theoretical puzzle that needed to be solved, ignoring the real world ramifications that could occur if they were to fail. But, he says, the opportunity is worth the cost . What I'm saying is: I think Pattern was talking to Mraize. He has a robe that looks as if it was chiseled from stone and an ever-changing 3D pattern in place of a head. The friend had won . Pattern tested his weight on a shield manifested by Shallan, to make sure the objects would not sink underneath the beads. The same thing is at play here. . After breaking the news to Kabsal that she would be leaving, the ardent requested a portrait as she had not yet created one of him. Pattern understood that Shallan hated him, for the part he had played and that one day she would kill him in retribution. Tyn, who had been hired by the Ghostbloods to assassinate the Alethi princess, attacked Shallan when she learned of her identity, with the intention to kill her. I'm expecting we'll find out a lot more about how Deadeye spren work in the next book, as we deal more with the Recreance and with Maya. We also know that Ishar was instrumentalin the original creation of the Knights Radiant: "But as for Ishi'elin,his was the part most importantat their inception; he readily understood the implications of Surges being granted to men, and caused organization to be thrust upon them; as having too great power, he let it be known that he would destroy each and every one, unless they agreed to be bound by precepts and laws." Start Today. There was something wrong about the storm and despite Shallan's attempts, Pattern would not stay quiet, frightening the slaves who sheltered with them. We've seen them be relevant clues at least twice before this. This is consistent if she were the one to frame Beryl. They are part of her truth. [10], While capable of silently blending in with his surroundings, which has proven useful when spying on people, Pattern has a tendency to vibrate audibly when excited or anxious. Further up the coast, he found one of Jasnah's trunks, which had been washed ashore. That is the truth that you spoke to me, the truth that brings power., The highstorm came later that night. "I know that you have forgotten much of what once was. Does Shallan betray Jasnah? After that Pattern realized she could only handle the truth in small doses. You think in lies and tell them to yourselves. But it is a possible explanation. [59][60], The next day, Shallan and Pattern returned to the Oathgate platform to face Ashertmarn, while the others tried to take control of the palace. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. We never hear anything else about him except he was supposedly her mother's lover. My memory is weak. Though it still remains that so many facts make a lot more sense assuming that Shallan bonded 2 Spren rather than 1, the thread was posted earlier but I'll do it again. Well the foreshadowing was already mention in RoW after Shallan recovered those memories. Such a deep lie," Pattern whispered. His bond to Shallan Davar grants him sentience in the Physical Realm and allows her to use the Surges associated with the Order of Lightweavers, Illumination and Transformation. [44], In her rooms, Shallan practiced manipulating sound, while Pattern watched and commented. On their way to All's Alley, Pattern calmed Shallan when she panicked, who briefly wondered if she had killed her brothers and had been lying to herself about their deaths. . Surprised to find Jasnah without her mask of composure, Shallan tried to sneak away without being seen, however was given away by Pattern. Shardplate adds a few inches to his height but still doesnt make him as tall as Kaladin. Her drawn pattern then leaves the paper and moves onto the floor. After nearly drowning in the sea of beads, Shallan was saved by Jasnah who brought her back to her body in the Physical Realm. [2][21], I will not stop vibrating. The people my mother knewDredernever came to our house. The Holy Spirit gave insight to Peter about the true nature of Jesus. Yet, why would Jasna know of Shallans mother? [fn 1] They arrived at the Davar estate and argued with Lin, and Shallan . After the battle, Vathah - distrusting of Shallan and disbelieving of her promises - angrily confronted her. It would make sense to me that the bond is retained, or something. Started by Who, then? I cannot betray this secret, Mraize said. After entering the house and making their way upstairs, Pattern unlocked the door to Amaram's secret room and stood watch while Shallan investigated. Shallan says no further Oaths between the end of Way of Kings and when she needs to use the Oathgate. [21], However, he is unable to hide his presence completely or to disappear completely like other spren, despite that his presence is limited in the Physical Realm. . Dictates of custom require following certain patterns before you copulate. Similarly, Pattern had not responded to her suggestions to stay inside and hidden and soon became known to the other occupants of the ship, who found the Cryptic discomforting. He was an exact form beneath the blanket. But you cannot continue like this; you must admit the truth about me. [10] At some point, his desire to study humans led him to transfer his mind to the Physical Realm and bond Shallan, even though he believed she would kill him, as she had killed her first spren, Testament. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. There is some overlap between whatever Shallan has and DID, but really her condition is quite different. However its stated that Pattern hasnt met her until the ship with Jasnah which is chapter 1 Way of Kings. Later, after she had been moved to a private room, she also found them lurking, whispering to her, though she chose not to respond. This buzzing sound tends to unnerve people, especially those unaware of where the noise is coming from. Community Software by Invision Power Services, Inc. On 11/25/2020 at 6:54 AM, Blood Of My Fathers said. The spren called themselves Cryptics, Jasnah explained, though they would likely be called liespren if seen by other humans - a name of which they themselves were not fond. Was Shallan's family, during her childhood, being influenced by an Unmade? It is said that the blade would've disappeared(keyword would've)as soon as it was placed in the safe, but Shallan sees it even after the safe is closed. []". I mean, shouldn't wewantthem to return, so we won't be the only order of Knights Radiant?" Do I have this sequence of events right? Additionally when she passes the blade to Kaladin in the chasms she tries to speak to Pattern and then remembers that shes given Pattern to Kaladin. Which we know has to do with his connection/destiny (hes a good spearman because he becomes a good spearman). ** She also perceives Pattern as a monster during this time. I've seen a few comments here and there but thought it would be a good idea to pull them together as a separate discussion topic. Score: 4.3/5 (7 votes) . Mother calling Shallan one of them. Her mother's arrival, with a friend Shallan didn't recognize, to confront her father. Mother's friend with a knife, the two struggling, the friend getting cut in the arm. The second man, Shallan's mother's lover, was associated with the Skybreakers and convinced her to kill Shallan because she was a budding Radiant. Kalak felt a sharp stab of horror. It is preceded by Oathbringer.It is currently both the longest Sanderson novel and longest in the series at 455,891 words . She manages to use Lightweaving when she meets Wit as a child. I'm not really sure what Dreder refers to, but it is only lightly implied and not stated that he was the person accompanying Shallan's mother during the incident. As heartbreaking as that is, I wonder why Pattern fed the lie there. Finally, he buzzed an approximation of a laugh. I was in denial in the beginning but I also thought it would've been interesting to see a dysfunctional Radiant-spren relationship or one where the spren is the "leader" of the pair, instead of magical companion, like the spren just goes I Bonded you for this purpose, so I can use our powers to this end. Yet, he cannot fully explain it because language is insufficient; he would need numbers. I can be what I am because I cut them off. 2. Shallan had used her mnemonic ability to assist her drawing, and the presence of the Cryptics were somehow included in the Memory. I dont think testament can be summoned as a blade. Shallan recalled that night and the deaths she had caused, using what she assumed was Pattern as the Shardblade that she had tried so hard to forget. Tag had worried about the trouble Shallan could cause and suggested that they should abandon her and move on, however, Tvlakv disagreed, instead seeing the opportunity to hold her hostage and earn a reward. Shallan informed him otherwise and then used Lightweaving to hide from the woman, having Pattern check after a time, that the coast was clear and Iyatil was gone. 1. Without speaking truths you will not be able to grow, Shallan. Theyre concepts that have gained a fragment of sentience, perhaps because of human intervention.. As the pair made their way back towards Sebarial's home, Pattern offered to show Shallan the way. After leaving the Oathgate platform, Shallan went to visit the street urchin Grund, to drop off her excess food. Shallan still has a connection to Testament, but we never see her appear when Shallan crosses into Shadesmar like Mya does with Adolin. I don't honestly know. A person who can utilize Stormlight to bind Surges is called a Surgebinder. Hmmm ok looking through it. At first i discarded the idea because later on her other family members became involved with them (after the mother is killed), but that may not matter too much. During a break in the meeting, Renarin approached Shallan and found, to his surprise that he was able to see Pattern, who, unlike his own spren Glys, could not turn invisible. You must become something. After all there is that Ghostblood - Davar family connection. Until WOR Shallan thought pattern was her old blade but so did pattern. Pattern approached the hired coach driver, who had been tasked to wait for the young woman's return, and, imitating Shallan's voice, instructed him to return her to the warcamps. I won't say it's impossible, but I will say that Shallan's mother attempting to kill her because Shallan was Radiant is more likely than the opposite, given the information we have. "The lies that drew me." I think Ishar is lying. Jasnah wore the Davar Soulcaster for some time, not realizing it was broken since her own Soulcaster was a decoy. Her freckles mostly faded as she reached young womanhood, but some are still visible, dusting her cheeks and nose. [66], When the group reached Celebrant they split in two, with Pattern joining Shallan, Azure and Mayalaran to try and find a ship willing to transport them. Shallan later drew out what she had seen, showing it to Pattern. After all, when the recreance happened all the spren got stuck as blades in the physical realm. Let's look at what Radiant says after Mraize repeats the gloryspren information: Beryl. [7] [20], I thought I saw something in the water, just now. why did pattern betray shallan . And Tower was corrupted. At the moment of the quote she didn't admit to herself she killed a blade. It is time for the Oathpact to end." [51], At the base of the stairwell, the group found several libraries filled with destroyed records, and beyond, a room full of darkness. And she summons the blade faster than ten seconds. Odd thought, what if Dreder is the name of a group? Shallan's questions shifted the conversation towards the existence of spren and in turn to the Voidbringers. 2. Sanderson admits his other books will be a tougher sell as movies. In her coach, Shallan practiced her Lightweaving, while Pattern watched. Ars Arcanum: The only thing we get to observe in this chapter is the Stormlight healing Shallan's feet, but there are two other allusions worth mentioning: One, there are a couple of references . We know that there are 16 shards in total, and we know that Odium has killed 4 of them (Ambition, Honor, Devotion, and Dominion). You wish to prepare for the Everstorm, the spren of the unnatural one. Required fields are marked *. The father was probably more loyal to Shallan than the ghostbloods considering he didn't tell them about her abilities. By comparing these two men, a picture is painted of two types of . Tom Doherty Associates. Why would it be surprising that they can lie to their own Radiants? It's easy! But Cryptics were there. [Dont read if you havent finished the book]. When Adolin kissed Shallan, Pattern intervened to remind them of his presence. A pattern of sharp lines, like a maze, Pattern continued to appear to Shallan, vanishing whenever she caught a glimpse of him until she finally managed to capture him in a Memory while reading in her cabin. With DID, you've got memory gaps and you don't have alters on purpose/you didn't make your alters like Shallan did. Here's another question for you: Why would Shallan's Shardblade being in that safe make it glow? You went to all this trouble to seed the information and find the spy. That can explain why the blade was in the strongbox for so long. Don't remember any instance of her seeing something that was not there. Whereupon Adolin is promptly seized and put in chains despite his obvious wound. My interpretation of the shining soul thing is that it's a young Shallan's broken mind playing tricks on her. Yes, but Testament being a member of the Ghosbloods is a pretty big leap. Once the food was gathered and lowered to the ground floor, he unlocked the dumbwaiter before moving off to distract Nananav's staff, disguised as a mink. [2], Raised, like an embossing, it had a complex pattern with a haunting symmetry. In a duration of about two years Shallan and Testaments bond progressed enough for her to summon Testament as a Shardblade, which she later used to kill her mother in self-defense. I believe it is notexplicitly stated when she killed her in the garden. Almost two weeks later, Renarin uncovered the hidden gemstones archive. I'm more concerned about the implications of this. Now, I know the first reaction of many of you would be to point out . That the transition wastraumatic. [39][31], On the day of the battle, Pattern alerted those working with Shallan to his presence, after he begun to buzz loudly in response to the storm. that said I think Pattern killed tyn. That was how Mraize knew things., You talked to Wit, Shallan whispered. 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